450Bushmaster.net

Hey guys. I'm dead set on trying Norma 200 for my 450 loads but I'm having a heck of a time finding any locally. Graff's has it in stock but I'm not wanting to spend $50 for them to ship me one pound and I'm also not wanting to buy eight pounds of it just in case it doesn't do what I'm wanting it to. Does anyone have any suggestions for me?

Thanks
Kris

Stealthshooter wrote:Hey guys. I'm dead set on trying Norma 200 for my 450 loads but I'm having a heck of a time finding any locally. Graff's has it in stock but I'm not wanting to spend $50 for them to ship me one pound and I'm also not wanting to buy eight pounds of it just in case it doesn't do what I'm wanting it to. Does anyone have any suggestions for me?

Thanks
Kris

Kris,

This is the very problem of the off-shore powders, bullet, and reloading components in general, they cost too much, are hard to get, and usually, there are domestic components that are the equal or better. Even if N200 gives you an edge, the critters won't know the difference, in most scenarios and with shipping, it'll be 2x,3x,4x, $$$, or more to get it to your door.

Don't get me wrong, we are Americans, and don't care what others might like, we like what we want, if for no other reason than just because. But for other new guys, let's do a little comparative exercise.

What is the load you are looking at, using the n200 and what are it's attributes (speed, energy, bullet weight, accuracy, knock-down-ability, all of the above, or ??) that is most attractive to you, be specific (what bullet and expected speeds. I forget, what barrel length did you get?), and we'll do this as an instructive eye opener..

..t

I'm looking to use the Barnes Original 300 grain spire point it has a BC of .289 rohk ran the numbers for me on QL and Norma 200 gave the best numbers next to Win 296. All the talk on here about Win 296 being hard to light put me on the search for something that would get similar numbers and be easier to deal with at cooler temps. I can't remember the exact velocities.

Almost forgot I have a 20" barrel

I am totally the last guy in here to give suggestions and I may very well be all wet on this suggestion, but why not just use some CCI small rifle Magnum primers with the 296?

I ended up getting 296 and some Rem 7 1/2 primers. The search for Norma 200 still goes on but in the mean time It's time to get this baby shooting!!

The way to deal with Grafs is to order all the primers and additional powder you need in a single order from Grafs as they will ship up to 50 lb of mixed hazmat, (except BP), in a single box for a single hazmat. Spread that shipping and hazmat over as wide a range as possible. A person can never own too many primers
BD

BD1 wrote:The way to deal with Grafs is to order all the primers and additional powder you need in a single order from Grafs as they will ship up to 50 lb of mixed hazmat, (except BP), in a single box for a single hazmat. Spread that shipping and hazmat over as wide a range as possible. A person can never own too many primers
BD

Well dang! I just got some primers locally. Next time I'll do just that!! Thanks for the heads up!

Some day, I'll understand why you can ship a case of loaded ammunition without a hazmat fee, but if you pull down just one of those cartridges and ship the discreet components in a box, you do. Seems to me that it is capable of causing greater bodily harm as a loaded round if it caught on fire.

Hoot

Stealthshooter wrote:I ended up getting 296 and some Rem 7 1/2 primers. The search for Norma 200 still goes on but in the mean time It's time to get this baby shooting!!

Ok, Great, on the 296. I burn allot of it. Just remember, that you can under-load it, causing tons of grief..

..t